First and foremost, you need to set clear goals as the cornerstone of any financial journey. You need to commit to your decisions and identify yourself as an investor no matter what your financial path. Continuous learning will propel you forward and lastly, surround yourself with the right people.
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Why defining your financial goals is so important
How to be committed to the decisions you make
Why you need to see yourself as an investor
The power and influence of your social circle
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Tim Lyons (00:00):
What episode are we up to?
Greg Lyons (00:01):
You don’t know. 93 Guy. 93.
Tim Lyons (00:05):
I love that. Let’s see. So that’s 92, 91.
Greg Lyons (00:12):
How about the housekeeping a little bit later and we start recording. Welcome to the Passive Income Brothers podcast.
Tim Lyons (00:29):
Here we take the fear out of real estate investing using real life stories of everyday successful investors. Let’s go. Welcome to another episode of the Passive Income Brothers podcast. My name is Tim Lyons, and today I’m joined by my brother. Greg, how you doing today, buddy?
Greg Lyons (00:45):
Tim, doing fantastic. We are past the summertime somehow into the fall, even though it’s probably 170 degrees in Virginia the last couple, couple of days, but we’re into fall, we’re into the new season and barreling our way towards 2024.
Tim Lyons (01:03):
Greg, we were on a phone call yesterday with someone who I’m going to be super excited to introduce everybody to in the coming days and weeks, but he made mention Greg of having like a hundred something days until the end of the year, which is incredible because I feel like I always feel like this, that I can’t believe we’re coming to the end of the year and you start doing the holidays, you start doing the goals and setting for the following year and what you want to accomplish, and you’re taking stock of what you did and what you didn’t do, and maybe you have some anxiety about that, but when you break it down to you have a hundred something days to the end of the year, how are you going to close out 2023?
Greg Lyons (01:46):
Yeah, that’s really interesting, Tim. I just read a great book and if people are looking for a quick read, it’s called Am I Being Too Subtle by Sam Zell? And he was a great kind of businessman kind of through the eighties and nineties and stuff like that. But he had a great quote on the first page of the book and it says, I have an embedded sense of urgency. What I can’t figure out is why so many other people don’t have it. And I mean, he could have ended the book on the first page right there, but I think it speaks to when you take the holidays out, we have about a hundred days to make a difference in our lives, our health, our portfolio, or whatever it is that we want get accomplished in 2023. So don’t wait. Today’s the day. Do something. Take action and close out 2023 as strong as possible.
Tim Lyons (02:40):
Dude, I love that quote. I mean, that’s me too at t, right, Greg? I mean, probably every morning you see my name pop up on your phone, you’re probably like, oh gosh, what’s he going to talk about today? But I sometimes wonder, why is everybody not feeling the way that I’m feeling? Am I different? Am I crazy? And we’ve talked about this on the podcast, right? I got a great job. I had two great jobs. I got a pension to look forward to. I got a retirement account. What is it that’s deep inside? And I think people who are listening to this podcast probably have something similar. They want to be do and have more, and they’re just trying to figure it out. I think we’re all trying to figure it out on this journey that we call life.
Greg Lyons (03:22):
Well, Tim, I think just to follow up on that, when I do see your name on my cell phone, I mean a lot goes through my mind. It could be anything on the other side of that, something inspirational, something completely disgusting. I mean, it goes so many in a variety of ways. You do keep it interesting. I will tell you that much.
Tim Lyons (03:43):
Well, I just want to keep you on your toes, buddy.
Greg Lyons (03:45):
That’s all it’s, that’s all. It’s
Tim Lyons (03:49):
So Greg, today we wanted to chat. Listen, with that a hundred days or so in mind, how are we going to close out 2023? And I know what Greg and I are going to do. We just recommitted. We had a great couple of days chatting about Cityside Capital, our private investment company that invest in commercial real estate assets across the US about the podcast, about conferences coming up and really kind of reating to the process. And we have a lot of exciting things to come for our company and the podcast, something from episode 91 with Joey Mure from Wealth Without Wall Street really stuck with me, Greg. And in full disclosure, if you haven’t listened to episode 91, Joey Mure, he has a company called Wealth Without Wall Street. And if you’re struggling out there to find a tribe to align yourself with and to find out just what does passive income mean, what does investing on Main Street mean versus following the Wall Street route that so many of us have been basically taught from birth?
That’s what you do. I’d recommend them. And I say that because I’m going through their process right now. I was so intrigued by their process. I threw my name in their email funnel, hopped on a call with one of their folks, Ernie. And Ernie and I have spoken now several times, and I’m going through the process because I want to know what it’s like, right? If I didn’t know what I know about passive income and taxes and all the other stuff that we talk about on this podcast, I want to know what it’s like on the other side if I’m just starting out. And so far, I’m getting some great value.
Greg Lyons (05:33):
You know what, Tim? Sometimes things strike a chord and I think something struck a chord with you where you’re just like, yeah, I have to go through this and kind of check out what’s going on and evaluate where you are in your journey. And I think that’s where we come to. And actually the last two episodes we did with Joey Mure and Matt for have been some of our most popular episodes we’ve had in a while. I mean, those were just really, really good episodes. But I think the thing that allowed us to do is kind of take a look and take stock of our own portfolio and kind of re-look at where we are with our goals and really our passive income goals and how we can get them better.
Tim Lyons (06:20):
That’s a hundred percent. And I just want to stack on top. So the big thing that really got me was when he said something so simple, but he said passive income, the equation was passive income greater than monthly expenses equals financial freedom. And I think on some level, we all kind of know that Greg, right? We all kind of know that if I can grow my income to just say I have 10 grand in expenses every month, if I can make 10 grand a month and passive income, I’m there, right? Boom. But it, it’s a nuanced thing because fundamentally the way that we grew up, I guess was the accumulation model, right? Save your money, pay off your house, pay off your debts, sock money into the 4 0 1 K, and when you’re 65 and you can retire, hopefully we have accumulated enough money on our computer screens, at least that show that we have in our retirement accounts that we can live in retirement.
And that’s the accumulation model. And we’re trying to really kind of flip the script on that one saying, Greg and I want to bring it into today’s terms. We want to live today. We want to spend time with our kids today. And the way that we decided to do that is to take whatever cash we have available and to put it into passive investments, thereby creating passive income. And we both have goals, individual goals about what that monthly number ideally needs to be, what we hope it could be, what we dream it could be, but also what is the number that we need, Greg to satisfy our monthly expenses? And that’s what we want to chat a little bit about today.
Greg Lyons (08:01):
And I think it is so hard when you’re starting that and you have zero passive income and you see the journey of a million miles starts with the first step. I think the first step is probably listening to these podcasts, not only ours, but other people. Get the ideas, get that mind working, kind of like Sam Zell did in the book. Am I being too subtle? He was always trying to identify opportunities, and that’s what you really need to do. And this podcast, others, whatever it is, you’re taking action by listening and then what’s the next step? And I think when we look at passive income being greater than monthly expenses, I think we came up with five ingredients, Tim. And that’s what we want to go over today is what are the ingredients for you to take your passive income to that next level or even get us started? And I think number one, Tim, is goals, hopes, and dreams.
Tim Lyons (08:58):
So listen, we all have that, right? Whether we want to talk about it in front of other people, or we don’t want to talk about it in front of other people. If we have it in the quietness of our minds or we write it down or we have a journal, whatever it might be. But we all have hopes, dreams, aspirations, goals that we want to accomplish. And I think there’s a whole industry out there that makes probably billions of dollars a year satisfying people’s need to scratch that itch about how do you maintain your goals, how do you accomplish goals? There’s books and podcasts and courses and conferences and apps, and there’s all sorts of ways. And I think for me at least, it’s always been hard. It’s always been hard to know what I want internally and then write it down. And then what are the action steps that I need to take to get myself there? It sounds so easy. You go to a goals conference, Greg, basically, I’m going to paraphrase you. Write it down, and then you back into it. What are the steps I need to do? And when is the timeline right? Smart goals, rights, what are the smart goals, measurable, attainable, whatever, time sensitive, an acronym. And I can’t think of the words right now…
Greg Lyons (10:08):
It really seems like it resonated with you.
Tim Lyons (10:10):
It really, yeah, it settled in nicely, but then life gets in the way. I have three little girls. Greg has two kids. Everybody has kids jobs, sick parents, pets, whatever the case may be. But you all have these things that get in the way of the goals. And if we’re not focused on them every single day, we’re not thinking about them. Our brain isn’t helping us, our environment is not helping us. Those are the things that we need to get super clear on. And once you’re super clear on it, and either you’re journaling every day, you’re writing them down, you’re reminding yourself what you’re working for. That to me, Greg is the first step. And it’s just like anything else. If you can’t do a pushup or a pullup today, you know what you’re going to start doing? Maybe one pullup a week for the next month, I don’t know. And then guess what? Next month you’ll be doing two and four, and then all of a sudden you’ll be doing 10 and you’ll be like, wow, I am really stacking some gains. And it’s the same thing with investing.
Greg Lyons (11:08):
I think in the world we live in, social media, immediate gratification, those sort of things, goals, hopes, and dreams, which are typically longer term can really get derailed very, very quickly, whether on a daily basis, monthly, quarterly, those hopes and dreams can sometimes really take a backseat to whatever the immediate problem is that you’re having to deal with. So really sticking with them is hard, but I think that leads us to the second ingredient to really start building that passive income is to make a choice and commit, which may be the hardest.
Tim Lyons (11:49):
Listen, making a choice in life can be hard. I mean, literally every night my wife and I are like, what do you want to do for dinner? And she’s like, I don’t know. What do you want to do? And I’m like, no, I need you to decide. No, no, no. I decided last night. I need you to decide. Those are the little things. So now scale that out to investing and your financial life. I mean, making the choice to either build passive income, to buy a business, to start a business, to do a side hustle, to change careers, having the courage and committing to that and making that choice to change a career or go back to school, whatever it might be, those choices are really hard. But if you’re listening to this podcast, you’re here for a reason, or you might be here for a season, I don’t know. But hopefully this resonates with you that making that choice. So really understanding your goals, hopes and dreams, and then making that choice and being defiantly committed to the outcome, those are the first two steps in my opinion, that you need to do to be a successful investor.
Greg Lyons (12:52):
Tim, it’s interesting that when you make a choice and commit, it’s usually a life event or an event in your life that maybe forces you to go in a different direction or to commit to something. And a lot of times it’s negative. It’s losing a job, losing a loved one that finally gets you onto the path of saying, yes, I’m going to commit to this and make it happen. And for Tim, was it a pandemic for us? I don’t know. But Cityside Capital started and we committed to it many years ago now, and it’s been a changing guiding force for us almost on a daily basis. And I think that is really important because we were just regular guys, Tim, the fireman, Craig, the basketball coach, whatever it was. But I think when you commit to something, you’ve changed your identity. And that’s number three in our five ingredients here. Tim, what’s your identity going to be? Is it just going to be W two worker? Is it just going to be lawyer? Is it just going to be doctor, or can you be that and an investor?
Tim Lyons (14:01):
Greg, this is a hard topic, right? Identity. I feel like we’re going through our whole lives and we’re trying to find out who we are and what do we stand for, what’s our essence and what do we want to be, right? Identity, who are we? When you’re in middle school and high school and college and a young adult, and then you’re freshly married and you go through these different seasons of life and you’re still trying to figure out your identity, who do I fit in with? Where do I want to be in life? What can I contribute? And really, for me, Greg, it was that realization that nobody is coming to save me, right? Nobody’s coming to save me with a daddy war. Warbucks. Hey, I’m your long lost uncle, and we have a mass fortune and you’re going to be on Easy Street,
Greg Lyons (14:46):
And I certainly wasn’t going to help you.
Tim Lyons (14:48):
No, no, of course not. No, no one’s coming to save me. That was a big thing for me. And who do I want to identify as? Right? So I was Tim the fireman, Tim, the ER nurse. So even to this day, Greg, I identify as a real estate investor. I’m a podcast host. I’m a dad. I’m a husband. I’m, yes, I’m a firefighter. But it took me a really long time to really step into those shoes that I’m an investor, right? I am going to make things happen. I’m going to evaluate deals, whether I had the money at the time or I didn’t have the money, I’m going to do this. I’m committing to the process. I’m going to do the education piece. I’m going to find out what I don’t know. I’m going to surround myself with good folks. So once you identify as a real estate investor, because a lot of us identify ourselves as what we do for a living, you go to a cocktail party, whatever it is. I always say cocktail party, Greg, when’s the last time you went to a cocktail party? But anyway,
Greg Lyons (15:47):
The last time I was at a dinner party, so
Tim Lyons (15:51):
Do the math. So there’s that. So there’s that, but whatever, you’re amongst friends or colleagues or you’re at your kid’s baseball game or something. And it’s very simple for us to say, Hey, hey, what do you do for a living? Who are you? And we identify as, oh, I’m a fireman. Anyway, just having that identity piece is so strong because once you have the goals, hopes and dreams nailed down, and once you commit to the process and you make that choice to do this, now you’re stepping into the shoes as an investor, whether you’re doing it by yourself or with your spouse or partner. And I think those three coming together is very, very powerful. And it has been for me.
Greg Lyons (16:33):
And I think a great example of identity is when we set out to start this podcast, it took us a short 13 months to even buy microphones, right? I mean, because we were not podcasters, we were not anything close. So it was just like, Hey, we’ll do it next week. We’ll do it whenever. But once we kind of ripped the bandaid off, and if you wanted a lot of fun, go back to episode one and just enjoy, right? I mean, because craziness, I mean, I don’t even know if we’re good now, but we have a lot of people listening. But I could say I’m a podcast host. That’s a new identity for me along with real estate, along with being a great dad and a great husband. Well, I mean, that’s all debatable, but those are the things that you jump into. And we’ve committed to this.
I mean, we’ve been on every week for 93 stinking weeks, and we have not missed one. And that is just so important. It’s part of what we do every single day. And a lot of times before you jump into something, whether it be a real estate investing, podcasting, you try to yourself, and no matter what it is, if you’re putting money behind something, if you’re putting your time behind something, you really want that education. Podcasts are a great medium to do that reading and so forth. But I think the fourth ingredient in really growing your passive income is that education piece. And I know this is something that you firmly believe in and is something that has been so important in our development.
Tim Lyons (18:15):
Dude, education is everything, right? The antidote to fear is education. If you don’t understand something and whether it’s, I don’t know, you have the sniffles and you read about it, or you don’t know how to change a light bulb and you read about it or watch a YouTube video on it, if you don’t have that fear anymore, you’re able to move forward and take that first step. Greg, you said the journey of a thousand miles begins at one step. And that’s kind of the process here that we’re talking about. And the education piece can come in so many different forms, and I feel like today we are at such an advantage, right? There’s courses you can buy online, there’s free resources, there’s YouTube University, there’s Podcast University, your car can become the University on Wheels. There’s paid mentorships, there’s free mentorships, there’s meetups. I dunno, B N i, there’s so many different resources.
I mean, there’s even the traditional school you can go back to. You can get your M B A or underwear, basket weaving, whatever it might be that you’re making the choice to learn about. It’s out there for you. And so listen, we all have 168 hours in a week and minus sleep and eating and maybe isn’t working. We all have a certain amount of free time out there, and it’s how we choose to allocate it. For me and for Greg, it was joining a mentorship program coming out of pocket for some real money. And when you do that, there’s accountability. Whether I paid a hundred dollars or a hundred thousand, I was going to do it because I’m cheap and I know that about myself. And if I pay for something, I want every last drop. And I’ll make a little quick joke about the open bars I went to in my younger formative years. If I paid 40 or 50 bucks for an open bar, Greg, you better believe I was drinking 40 or $50 worth.
Greg Lyons (20:14):
That baby was going to be bone dry. Absolutely, yes.
Tim Lyons (20:18):
So listen, there’s all these different ways, and for me, it was Rita, rich Dad, poor Dad, summer of 2019 on the beach, outer Banks, North Carolina. Following that up quickly with the Cashflow Quadrant, with Tax-Free Wealth by Tom Wheelwright, the Wealthy Gardener by John Furich. There’s another one by Garrett Sutton about how to run your business, which is about L L C formation and stuff. And all of a sudden I went from a W two mindset of go to work, get paid every two weeks and get crushed in taxes, have no write-offs to really speak of, to learning about how the other people in my if surroundings were doing it. I saw people investing in real estate. I saw people being business owners, and they seem to have a lot of money, or they appeared to have more wealth than I did. And once you unlock some of those keys, the information is out there. It’s understanding the information and then implementing it one step at a time.
Greg Lyons (21:21):
Tim, with that last soliloquy or answer that you gave
Tim Lyons (21:28):
Greg Lyons (21:29):
That was very nice, right? I like that. A little s a t word right there. You mentioned 168 hours and then you started subtracting sleep and all that. I thought you were going to start doing some public math, and I was getting a little concerned.
Tim Lyons (21:45):
I learned my lesson with public
Greg Lyons (21:47):
Math. Okay, good. Yeah, thankfully you pivoted away from that and the education you’ve learned from your past performances in public math. So that was really good. Thank you, buddy. But education is really a wonderful part of that. But as I’m giving you a hard time, I think the main thing for us that has been so helpful is the environment we’re putting ourselves in. And that’s the fifth ingredient to building your passive income is your environment. And for Tim and I, we have a daily banter, but we have a daily accountability to each other. That’s the environment that we have chosen to put ourselves in to grow our lives, grow our portfolios, grow our business. It’s so important. But environment can be a daily thing, but it could also be the mastermind. You’re in the Zoom calls, you’re taking different conferences you go to, who do you surround yourself with on a daily basis? What environment for success are you putting yourself in to be great,
Tim Lyons (22:57):
Greg, if you follow this next equation, garbage in equals garbage out, and you apply that to your environment, that is going to be huge. And that’s kind of what I use. I used to watch, let’s say a lot of cable news. I used to watch a lot of mainstream media type stuff, and I used to get agitated and it would cause me some anxiety and I’d be upset with certain things. And I finally said to myself, what am I doing right? Garbage in equals garbage out. And I started to read books, and I started to join accountability calls with a small group of folks that I have curated over the last couple of years. And when I spend my time doing that felt better. I felt more positive about life. I felt more positive about my choices and my decisions and my investments and going on a journey together with other folks.
And there’s a great quote that from a de facto mentor of ours, Jim Rohn, and he says that you are the average of the five people that you spend the most amount of time with. And it can sound pretty cliche sometimes, Greg, you hear that on podcast or whatever, and you’re like, oh, yeah, that sounds cute. But when you really drill down to it, Greg was a college basketball player, played for the University of Virginia, as did his wife, and now their son is really, Connor’s really kind of smoking the high school circuit. But you guys have made a commitment to help Connor get on better teams and to travel and to make choices and his environment. He’s the average of the five people that he’s spending the most amount of time with. And that’s a real life example. If you were a swimmer and you’re hanging out with five Olympians in the pool, you think you’re going to suck at swimming or you think you’re going to start killing it, right?
If you’re going to the gym, if you’re going with five people that are really going to support you and have made gains in their life, are you going to get worse in the gym or better? And it’s the same thing when we talk about our financial lives, Greg, right? If you’re hanging around five people that are unprepared in debt, credit card, keeping up to the Joneses, spending money they don’t have borrowing from their retirement accounts just to pay for current day expenses. I mean, those are not maybe the folks that are going to be showing you the way we’re helping you whether directly or indirectly. So I think your environment means so much, and Greg and I have been a part of a couple of different masterminds at this point, and we’re always looking to find our tribe and people that are kind of rowing the same direction.
And it’s not to be in an echo chamber, Greg. We don’t want people just feeding us the same kind of stuff. We want people challenging us. Hey, why are you doing your business this way? Or when you’re investing here, have you ever thought about this? And here’s what I’m doing. Here’s what’s worked, right? Because whether it’s your environment or your education, if you make a mistake and you lose money on an investment, you can take your ball and go home, or you can use that as a valuable piece of education and experience, and now you know what to stay away from, who to stay away from, what markets, what asset classes, and make the pivot and join that environment of other people and move it a different direction.
Greg Lyons (26:19):
Well Tim, what’s interesting about that is that three years into this journey, Joey Mure, two weeks ago on our podcast, two weeks ago, it really hit home for you. So it’s not like you kind of grow for a year or grow for six months or whatever. It’s a constant evolution. And that constant evolution was two weeks ago for you where you’re just like, oh, this really resonates with me. Let me investigate it. Let me get educated. And I think that’s so important that it’s an evolution. It’s not just a one-time thing. It’s not a one course, it’s not one mastermind. It’s an ongoing thing every single day of the conversations you have and the people you’re surrounding yourself with. And speaking of, surrounding yourself with people, if you put me into a pool with five Olympians, five Olympic swimmers, 10, 15, 20, right? I am still a full body dry heave trying to swim from one end of the pool to the other, and I’m not even talking about a 50 meter pool. I’m talking about a kiddie pool. I can’t get from one side to the other. So it doesn’t matter who I’m surrounded with in the swimming sort of things. But with real estate, it’s been a different story.
Tim Lyons (27:35):
It’s funny, I’ve seen you, when you get into anybody of water that has waves, you think you’re the expert body surfer, which is pretty outstanding.
Greg Lyons (27:45):
Well, I do have a lot of confidence in myself, misguided as it is, the confidence is there, and I’ve seen some video of people body surfing, so it unquote looks easy, but it is just the way.
Tim Lyons (28:00):
So listen, these are the five steps that really kind of guide us. So just to recap it’s goals, hopes and dreams, number one. Number two is making that choice and committing, finally committing to that process. Number three, stepping into the shoes of an investor, right? Whether you’re a firefighter, an ER nurse, a college basketball coach, a teacher, it doesn’t matter what you’re doing, right? You can be all those things, but having that identity of I’m going to be an investor in whatever that means to you is huge. Number four, getting that education and applying the concept of education times action equals your results. Thank you, Jake and Gino for instilling that equation into our lives. And number five, your environment. Who are you surrounding yourself with? Garbage in is garbage out, making that choice, finding your tribe. And if you need help finding a tribe, send me an email, firstname.lastname@example.org. I’d be happy to tell you what I’ve done, how I try to vet different masterminds and stuff like that, what I’m looking for, and maybe even just talk to you and help you to see what you’re looking for. Then finally, Greg.
Greg Lyons (29:08):
Well, Tim, I think when you say environment, I think in October we’re going to be going to Multifamily Mastery six, the Jake and Gino event in Orlando. And I think it’s a great place to not only meet up with us, but to really expose yourself to what’s out there and surrounding yourself with investors and people that are taking the leap into real estate, both passive and active, and surrounding yourself in a great environment with people that will probably help you make a choice and commit.
Tim Lyons (29:41):
That’s a hundred percent where I was going to go with that, taking those five steps, and if you’re looking for an environment and you want to just check it out, we’re going to be at the Multifamily Mastery six conference, which is held October 14th and 15th at the Gaylord Palms Resort in Orlando, Florida. It’s a beautiful, beautiful facility, and it’s a beautiful time of year to be in Florida. Orlando is super accessible, many direct flights. So in fact, we brought our dad, big Rich, we brought him to Multifamily Mastery four, and as well as my whole family, because I spoke on stage actually in front of 900 people my first time kind of doing that about my journey. Thank you, buddy, and my dad loved it. So he’s 73, he’s retired. He’s joined us on a ton of our deals, and I think he just enjoys, even though he started way later in life, which is another thing, it’s never too late to start. He started way later in life trying to build out his passive income streams. And like anybody else in that situation, Greg, he wishes he would’ve known about this earlier in his life and had the opportunity to maybe participate.
Greg Lyons (30:57):
Tim, the one thing about our dad, big Rich, is that we cannot attribute one download of one of our episodes, one of our podcasts to him, because he still can’t figure it out. Can’t figure it out. We can really talk about him right now because he’s never going to hear this, but not one download from the patriarch.
Tim Lyons (31:20):
That’s it. But he’s a classic individual. So listen, Greg and I, and I think my dad are going to be there October 14th and 15th, multifamily Mastery six, if you would like a discount on the tickets, you can head into the show notes, and we are going to put a link that you can get your ticket. There’s regular tickets. There’s v I p tickets, I think are still available, and if you want to grab dinner or drinks or just have breakfast, or you just want to hang out with us, we’re going to be there for those couple of days. So Greg, this has been a pleasure, buddy. I love doing this with you. I love to be on the journey with you. I love to go through these five steps because at the end of the day, it’s hard to do anything in life by yourself, and it’s obviously better to do it with an accountability partner.
Greg Lyons (32:08):
Fantastic. I appreciate you, Tim. Fantastic. I appreciate you too, and let’s make these next a hundred days, not only for Cityside Capital, but to our listeners, make these next a hundred days really, really important and close out 2023 the right way.
Tim Lyons (32:23):
Love that. So that’s going to do it for this week’s edition of The Passive Income Brothers Podcast, and we look forward to serving you again next week. Thank you for listening to another episode of The Passive Income Brothers podcast. We would be grateful for your support of our podcast by giving our show a star rating and review and subscribing to our show on your favorite podcast platform. Don’t forget to take inspired action after listening to this show so that you can start building out your passive income streams. Finally, head on over to cityside cap.com to connect with us and find out more information about how to get started passively investing in real estate.